Comments on: HDMI 1.3 Not as Close as You Might Think http://www.hometheaterblog.com/hometheater/2006/08/hdmi-13-not-as-close-as-you-might-think/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=hdmi-13-not-as-close-as-you-might-think Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:40:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Collin Blackhttp://www.hometheaterblog.com/hometheater/2006/08/hdmi-13-not-as-close-as-you-might-think/#comment-912 Collin Black Mon, 01 Jan 2007 23:07:09 +0000 http://www.hometheaterblog.com/?p=466#comment-912 Aaron, I agree completely. Aaron, I agree completely.

]]> By: Collin Blackhttp://www.hometheaterblog.com/hometheater/2006/08/hdmi-13-not-as-close-as-you-might-think/#comment-7254 Collin Black Mon, 01 Jan 2007 23:07:00 +0000 http://www.hometheaterblog.com/?p=466#comment-7254 Aaron, I agree completely. Aaron, I agree completely.

]]> By: Aaron Harmonhttp://www.hometheaterblog.com/hometheater/2006/08/hdmi-13-not-as-close-as-you-might-think/#comment-911 Aaron Harmon Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:00:22 +0000 http://www.hometheaterblog.com/?p=466#comment-911 To be honest this whole HDMI naming scheme has me a bit miffed. It's not good enough to just buy an HDMI set and reciever. They all have to be 1.3 and don't bother asking the Joe Six Pack Blue Shirt at your local electronics store, most of them do not realize that there is more than one standard. I have a decent 1080i set, but I want a 1080p set and will not even consider upgrading until I can replace it with a 1.3 device, the same goes for my Onkyo receiver. To be honest this whole HDMI naming scheme has me a bit miffed. It’s not good enough to just buy an HDMI set and reciever. They all have to be 1.3 and don’t bother asking the Joe Six Pack Blue Shirt at your local electronics store, most of them do not realize that there is more than one standard. I have a decent 1080i set, but I want a 1080p set and will not even consider upgrading until I can replace it with a 1.3 device, the same goes for my Onkyo receiver.

]]> By: Aaron Harmonhttp://www.hometheaterblog.com/hometheater/2006/08/hdmi-13-not-as-close-as-you-might-think/#comment-7253 Aaron Harmon Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:00:00 +0000 http://www.hometheaterblog.com/?p=466#comment-7253 To be honest this whole HDMI naming scheme has me a bit miffed. It's not good enough to just buy an HDMI set and reciever. They all have to be 1.3 and don't bother asking the Joe Six Pack Blue Shirt at your local electronics store, most of them do not realize that there is more than one standard. I have a decent 1080i set, but I want a 1080p set and will not even consider upgrading until I can replace it with a 1.3 device, the same goes for my Onkyo receiver. To be honest this whole HDMI naming scheme has me a bit miffed. It’s not good enough to just buy an HDMI set and reciever. They all have to be 1.3 and don’t bother asking the Joe Six Pack Blue Shirt at your local electronics store, most of them do not realize that there is more than one standard. I have a decent 1080i set, but I want a 1080p set and will not even consider upgrading until I can replace it with a 1.3 device, the same goes for my Onkyo receiver.

]]> By: Gabe Ghearinghttp://www.hometheaterblog.com/hometheater/2006/08/hdmi-13-not-as-close-as-you-might-think/#comment-910 Gabe Ghearing Mon, 27 Nov 2006 18:28:04 +0000 http://www.hometheaterblog.com/?p=466#comment-910 Well, the PS3 has shipped and the chipset inside is labeled 9132. The ps3setvideo command used to control video modes in Linux running on the PS3 has an option for enabling dither which the 9134 also supports. I'm guessing the 9132 is a 9134 that has been slightly customized for the PS3 (i.e. the HDCP keys might be masked into a ROM instead of being stored in an EEPROM). The PS3's output capabilities seem to be identical to the 9134's specs: HDMI 1.3, RGB, and YCbCr outputs Dithering for older HDMI outputs Dolby-True and DTS capable The only problem I have with the PS3's HDMI output is that it requires a HDCP capable monitor to function at all... The monitor syncs via HDMI w/o HDCP, but just stays black. Well, the PS3 has shipped and the chipset inside is labeled 9132.

The ps3setvideo command used to control video modes in Linux running on the PS3 has an option for enabling dither which the 9134 also supports. I’m guessing the 9132 is a 9134 that has been slightly customized for the PS3 (i.e. the HDCP keys might be masked into a ROM instead of being stored in an EEPROM).

The PS3′s output capabilities seem to be identical to the 9134′s specs:
HDMI 1.3, RGB, and YCbCr outputs
Dithering for older HDMI outputs
Dolby-True and DTS capable

The only problem I have with the PS3′s HDMI output is that it requires a HDCP capable monitor to function at all… The monitor syncs via HDMI w/o HDCP, but just stays black.

]]> By: Gabe Ghearinghttp://www.hometheaterblog.com/hometheater/2006/08/hdmi-13-not-as-close-as-you-might-think/#comment-7252 Gabe Ghearing Mon, 27 Nov 2006 18:28:00 +0000 http://www.hometheaterblog.com/?p=466#comment-7252 Well, the PS3 has shipped and the chipset inside is labeled 9132. The ps3setvideo command used to control video modes in Linux running on the PS3 has an option for enabling dither which the 9134 also supports. I'm guessing the 9132 is a 9134 that has been slightly customized for the PS3 (i.e. the HDCP keys might be masked into a ROM instead of being stored in an EEPROM). The PS3's output capabilities seem to be identical to the 9134's specs: HDMI 1.3, RGB, and YCbCr outputs Dithering for older HDMI outputs Dolby-True and DTS capable The only problem I have with the PS3's HDMI output is that it requires a HDCP capable monitor to function at all... The monitor syncs via HDMI w/o HDCP, but just stays black. Well, the PS3 has shipped and the chipset inside is labeled 9132.

The ps3setvideo command used to control video modes in Linux running on the PS3 has an option for enabling dither which the 9134 also supports. I’m guessing the 9132 is a 9134 that has been slightly customized for the PS3 (i.e. the HDCP keys might be masked into a ROM instead of being stored in an EEPROM).

The PS3′s output capabilities seem to be identical to the 9134′s specs:
HDMI 1.3, RGB, and YCbCr outputs
Dithering for older HDMI outputs
Dolby-True and DTS capable

The only problem I have with the PS3′s HDMI output is that it requires a HDCP capable monitor to function at all… The monitor syncs via HDMI w/o HDCP, but just stays black.

]]> By: David Woodwardhttp://www.hometheaterblog.com/hometheater/2006/08/hdmi-13-not-as-close-as-you-might-think/#comment-909 David Woodward Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:54:57 +0000 http://www.hometheaterblog.com/?p=466#comment-909 The Silcon Image release talks about the 9133 being a receiver chip and the 9134 being a transmitter chip. (1) Yet they talk about the 9133 being able to display the capabilities of the PS3? So this should go into the TV sets. But what about the PS3 itself. It should have a transmitter chip and that is what the 9134 is. (2) They talk about 9134 also allowing for the better audio content. Well, if 9134 is a transmitter, that is fine for my Blu-ray/HD-DVD player, but what chip do i need in my receiver/decoder to get the benefits of that (the 9135-not-yet-created-chip)? Seems not quite right. I hope that someone in the PR department of Silicon Image got things a bit messed up. Because if they didn't then make sure your TV is 9133, your player 9134, and your receiver, I don't know. The Silcon Image release talks about the 9133 being a receiver chip and the 9134 being a transmitter chip.
(1) Yet they talk about the 9133 being able to display the capabilities of the PS3? So this should go into the TV sets. But what about the PS3 itself. It should have a transmitter chip and that is what the 9134 is.
(2) They talk about 9134 also allowing for the better audio content. Well, if 9134 is a transmitter, that is fine for my Blu-ray/HD-DVD player, but what chip do i need in my receiver/decoder to get the benefits of that (the 9135-not-yet-created-chip)?

Seems not quite right. I hope that someone in the PR department of Silicon Image got things a bit messed up. Because if they didn’t then make sure your TV is 9133, your player 9134, and your receiver, I don’t know.

]]> By: David Woodwardhttp://www.hometheaterblog.com/hometheater/2006/08/hdmi-13-not-as-close-as-you-might-think/#comment-7251 David Woodward Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:54:00 +0000 http://www.hometheaterblog.com/?p=466#comment-7251 The Silcon Image release talks about the 9133 being a receiver chip and the 9134 being a transmitter chip. (1) Yet they talk about the 9133 being able to display the capabilities of the PS3? So this should go into the TV sets. But what about the PS3 itself. It should have a transmitter chip and that is what the 9134 is. (2) They talk about 9134 also allowing for the better audio content. Well, if 9134 is a transmitter, that is fine for my Blu-ray/HD-DVD player, but what chip do i need in my receiver/decoder to get the benefits of that (the 9135-not-yet-created-chip)? Seems not quite right. I hope that someone in the PR department of Silicon Image got things a bit messed up. Because if they didn't then make sure your TV is 9133, your player 9134, and your receiver, I don't know. The Silcon Image release talks about the 9133 being a receiver chip and the 9134 being a transmitter chip.
(1) Yet they talk about the 9133 being able to display the capabilities of the PS3? So this should go into the TV sets. But what about the PS3 itself. It should have a transmitter chip and that is what the 9134 is.
(2) They talk about 9134 also allowing for the better audio content. Well, if 9134 is a transmitter, that is fine for my Blu-ray/HD-DVD player, but what chip do i need in my receiver/decoder to get the benefits of that (the 9135-not-yet-created-chip)?

Seems not quite right. I hope that someone in the PR department of Silicon Image got things a bit messed up. Because if they didn’t then make sure your TV is 9133, your player 9134, and your receiver, I don’t know.

]]> By: B.Greenwayhttp://www.hometheaterblog.com/hometheater/2006/08/hdmi-13-not-as-close-as-you-might-think/#comment-908 B.Greenway Sun, 20 Aug 2006 17:23:11 +0000 http://www.hometheaterblog.com/?p=466#comment-908 It will (as far as I know) not sure how I indicated it wouldn’t. “Will we see HDMI 1.3 capable devices in 2006? Yes beyond any shadow of a doubt” My larger point is that certain devices and manufacturers will take much longer to ship 1.3 equipment than others, so the “HDMI 1.3 is shipping” mantra is limited and hardly telling of the full story. Or in other words, what does a handful of HDMI 1.3 devices really mean in the larger scope of hundreds of thousands of non HDMI 1.3 compliant devices in use today? Until we have a 1.3 chain from source to receiver and or display, the real benefits won’t be realized. It will (as far as I know) not sure how I indicated it wouldn’t. “Will we see HDMI 1.3 capable devices in 2006? Yes beyond any shadow of a doubt”

My larger point is that certain devices and manufacturers will take much longer to ship 1.3 equipment than others, so the “HDMI 1.3 is shipping” mantra is limited and hardly telling of the full story.

Or in other words, what does a handful of HDMI 1.3 devices really mean in the larger scope of hundreds of thousands of non HDMI 1.3 compliant devices in use today? Until we have a 1.3 chain from source to receiver and or display, the real benefits won’t be realized.

]]> By: B.Greenwayhttp://www.hometheaterblog.com/hometheater/2006/08/hdmi-13-not-as-close-as-you-might-think/#comment-7250 B.Greenway Sun, 20 Aug 2006 17:23:00 +0000 http://www.hometheaterblog.com/?p=466#comment-7250 It will (as far as I know) not sure how I indicated it wouldn’t. “Will we see HDMI 1.3 capable devices in 2006? Yes beyond any shadow of a doubt” My larger point is that certain devices and manufacturers will take much longer to ship 1.3 equipment than others, so the “HDMI 1.3 is shipping” mantra is limited and hardly telling of the full story. Or in other words, what does a handful of HDMI 1.3 devices really mean in the larger scope of hundreds of thousands of non HDMI 1.3 compliant devices in use today? Until we have a 1.3 chain from source to receiver and or display, the real benefits won’t be realized. It will (as far as I know) not sure how I indicated it wouldn’t. “Will we see HDMI 1.3 capable devices in 2006? Yes beyond any shadow of a doubt”

My larger point is that certain devices and manufacturers will take much longer to ship 1.3 equipment than others, so the “HDMI 1.3 is shipping” mantra is limited and hardly telling of the full story.

Or in other words, what does a handful of HDMI 1.3 devices really mean in the larger scope of hundreds of thousands of non HDMI 1.3 compliant devices in use today? Until we have a 1.3 chain from source to receiver and or display, the real benefits won’t be realized.

]]> By: WiFiSpyhttp://www.hometheaterblog.com/hometheater/2006/08/hdmi-13-not-as-close-as-you-might-think/#comment-907 WiFiSpy Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:51:47 +0000 http://www.hometheaterblog.com/?p=466#comment-907 I thought the 599$ PS3 will include HDMI 1.3? I thought the 599$ PS3 will include HDMI 1.3?

]]> By: WiFiSpyhttp://www.hometheaterblog.com/hometheater/2006/08/hdmi-13-not-as-close-as-you-might-think/#comment-7249 WiFiSpy Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:51:00 +0000 http://www.hometheaterblog.com/?p=466#comment-7249 I thought the 599$ PS3 will include HDMI 1.3? I thought the 599$ PS3 will include HDMI 1.3?

]]> By: Brian Hoythttp://www.hometheaterblog.com/hometheater/2006/08/hdmi-13-not-as-close-as-you-might-think/#comment-906 Brian Hoyt Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:34:16 +0000 http://www.hometheaterblog.com/?p=466#comment-906 How do you think this plays into the PS3 launch? For quite a while one of the touted features of the PS3 has been the inclusion of a HDMI 1.3 port (originally two of them). It is interesting to note, especially in light of your Blu-Ray Joe Kane article, that Sony has neglected to mention any new audio standards as being included in the PS3 Blu-Ray player. Just another question to be determined the second week of November. How do you think this plays into the PS3 launch? For quite a while one of the touted features of the PS3 has been the inclusion of a HDMI 1.3 port (originally two of them). It is interesting to note, especially in light of your Blu-Ray Joe Kane article, that Sony has neglected to mention any new audio standards as being included in the PS3 Blu-Ray player. Just another question to be determined the second week of November.

]]> By: Brian Hoythttp://www.hometheaterblog.com/hometheater/2006/08/hdmi-13-not-as-close-as-you-might-think/#comment-7248 Brian Hoyt Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:34:00 +0000 http://www.hometheaterblog.com/?p=466#comment-7248 How do you think this plays into the PS3 launch? For quite a while one of the touted features of the PS3 has been the inclusion of a HDMI 1.3 port (originally two of them). It is interesting to note, especially in light of your Blu-Ray Joe Kane article, that Sony has neglected to mention any new audio standards as being included in the PS3 Blu-Ray player. Just another question to be determined the second week of November. How do you think this plays into the PS3 launch? For quite a while one of the touted features of the PS3 has been the inclusion of a HDMI 1.3 port (originally two of them). It is interesting to note, especially in light of your Blu-Ray Joe Kane article, that Sony has neglected to mention any new audio standards as being included in the PS3 Blu-Ray player. Just another question to be determined the second week of November.

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